Fossil fuel

Nukedlou · Veteran Member

Fossil fuel

mike of the mountain · Senior Member

a little tongue in cheek ?

didja see the nuclear fuel recycling facility in england that sprung a nitric acid leak (which has radioactive material in solution) , the 2.4 billion pound plant is off line until they can design a way to get the spilled radioactive nitric acid back into where it belongs, but humans cant enter the area of the spill , and live .... they are loosing millions each day .... spent nuclear fuel waste to be reprocessed is piling up ..... http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/may2005/2005-05-11-02.asp

until they find a better way to get rid of the waste product maybe hold off on that idea ....

did you know president bush has a ranch in texas that is heated and cooled by a geothermal system ?

didja know that when you eat beef you are actualy eating converted corn , feed the corn to the steer , make it grow , eat the steer , there fore eat the corn BUT , the corn growth is enhanced with ammonium nitrate , with out the enhancement it would be too expensive to use the corn the feed the steer - how do you make ammonium nitrate - mostly with OIL , hydrocarbons ! therefore when you eat beef - you are really eating converted reprosessed oil .....

useless true trivia .

so why sell niagara mohawk to the english ? better yet why sell it at all ?

-- Edited by mike of the mountain at 01:07, 2005-05-12

NuclearLou · Senior Member

Thank you PMman or JHwalker:

Imitation really IS the sincerest form of flattery--I am humbled, impressed and feeling rather proud all at the same time. Thanks :*) Please though, just treat the name and monkey, good (sniff), like he's a relative of your own. Please?

Best,

nL R.

THE ONLY REAL CURE FOR THE WORLD'S FUEL WOES AND GLOBAL WARMING PROBLEM ... is TO INCREASE THE GLOBAL POPULATION While this may sound absurd on the surface, here's the scoop.

First, we get a really big scoop--like a kite or a sail and when there's so much CO2 in the atmosphere, we can scoop it up and seperate it out for another stage of further seperation whereby the H in the CO2 is removed and used as the H fuel cell filler that everyone talks about now. All of the seperation steps would be chemical free. With more people and less chemicals, we will have more people. The more people we have the more CO2 we would have to seperate. What beautiful and simple logic...waydaya tink?

I say, INCREASE THE POPULATION by at least a global magnitude and we can make this Wilson Project a real success. I am calling it the Wilson Project because the atomic bomb had a cool name called the Manhattan Project but darn it that one was already used.

Plus, I think that all the most brilliant science minds are from that part of the county, anywhere near the waters of Niagara, once beautiful, now a cesspool.

For years, there's been talk of an environmental research center, well there it is.

MORE PEOPLE MORE FUEL. Elegant.

*As just an agricultural and housekeeping note about Mr. Mohkey. He has anal gland problems and the more he shakes his head the worse they get. You will have to rub them (anal glands) and drain the sacs. Just sos you know. Wouldn't want Mr. Mohkey uncomfortable or sickly. When he gets sick you'll know. Believe me, you'll know. He'll be in such discomfort, he'll want to walk long distances to please his glands. You could loose him that way. He once turned up in Albany and I had to have a politician drive him most of the way back here...but that's another story.

-- Edited by NuclearLou at 10:25, 2005-05-12

NuclearLou · Senior Member

Hey Mike: What a great post! My Dad used to talk to me about the energy used in beef cattle "production" and marketing. He was floored by the amount of calories it takes in energy such as corn, tractors, gasoline, diesel, tractor trucks and in store refridgeration...All that energy for us to get a very small amount of protein that only serves the human body for a few hours as energy. Amazing, absolutely amazing!

Mike of Mountain says-

>"didja know that when you eat beef you are actualy eating converted corn , feed the corn to the >steer , make it grow , eat the steer , there fore eat the corn BUT , the corn growth is enhanced >with ammonium nitrate , with out the enhancement it would be too expensive to use the corn the >feed the steer - how do you make ammonium nitrate - mostly with OIL , hydrocarbons ! therefore >when you eat beef - you are really eating converted reprosessed oil .....
NOT NOT NOT useless trivia .

As far as I care, this is one of the best posts yet on the blog board yet. This story really grabs the steer by the horns.

jspeer · Guru

Hydrogen from CO2? Wow, that would be a neat trick.

NuclearLou · Senior Member

That's where the seperation comes in. That and a little tampering with nature and alchemy. Where do you want that cigar you won?

alwayswatching · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: NuclearLou
"That's where the seperation comes in. That and a little tampering with nature and alchemy. Where do you want that cigar you won?"

I know where he can put it!

mike of the mountain · Senior Member

THat is a great plan to seperate hydrogen from co2 , but i can see one slight flaw , you left out a step - the earth has a system to remove co2 already and it releases o2 in the process , the carbon is left where it is readily availible as an energy source in trees as wood . . the trees seperate hydrogen from something {water maybe } and mix it with the carbon and you have an energy source - wood . the great thing about this system is if you increase the amount of co2 availible the trees grow faster and better and use it up as fast as you can generate it .

a very wise smart individual must have designed it.

but directly removing hydrogen from co2 ? i dunno it does not add up - and since co2 is about .3% of the atmosphere you would need more than a kite to seperate and concentrate it , other than those minor difficulties , a great plan ....

Paper Tigress · Veteran Member

As long as we're playing alchemist, wouldn't it be faster to separate the hydrgoen from water? Much more plentiful source, since it covers 80% of the planet

Nukedlou · Veteran Member

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-- Edited by Nukedlou at 21:45, 2005-05-12

jspeer · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: NuclearLou
"That's where the seperation comes in. That and a little tampering with nature and alchemy. Where do you want that cigar you won?"

AW Quote:
I know where he can put it!

Aw, why do you want to be my intern? And Lou, if you can figure out how to seperate hydrogen from CO2 you will be a million air or a magician. CO2 is one part carbon and two parts oxygen......thus the name.

alwayswatching · Guru

Maybe if Lou makes his millions and can pay me very well. not

Dovey · Senior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: alwayswatching
"Maybe if Lou makes his millions and can pay me very well. not"

They may not want to dig in the ground in all of N.Y

Mindcrime · Guru

Umm, I'm with JSpeer on this one...How exactly are we extracting hydrogen from carbondioxide? I'd like to hear the science on that one.

While yer at it, gold and lead are separated by a single electron on the periodic table. Why don't you work on that in your off hours, and you can make your own millions...

Ch-ching

Nukedlou · Veteran Member

quote:
Originally posted by: alwayswatching
"Maybe if Lou makes his millions and can pay me very well. not"

AW, I think he Asked if you wanted to be his(Jspeer) intern. You know like Monica with the cigar.LOL! And I do agree with Jspeer what kind of Philisophoical bull is Lou trying to feed us? I guess I should change my name to "The Smart Lou". JSpeer, thanks for pointing me out to the site.

The Smart Lou

ScottLefler · Member

So, not one of you numbskulls even got Lou's humor, eh?

I believe that the cigar comment was a compliment to speer for getting the goofy science irony and that Lou was just asking legitimately where he could send the cigar prize. You all seemed to add the other stuff. Some of it pretty lou'd.

We'll just have to see how far this humor will be allowed to go by Dad when HE gets home from work.

Scot

Scott Leffler · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: ScottLefler
"So, not one of you numbskulls even got Lou's humor, eh?
I believe that the cigar comment was a compliment to speer for getting the goofy science irony and that Lou was just asking legitimately where he could send the cigar prize. You all seemed to add the other stuff. Some of it pretty lou'd.
We'll just have to see how far this humor will be allowed to go by Dad when HE gets home from work.
Scot"

Please note that ScottLefler is not me. So when the previous "numbskull" offends you all and attempts to defame me, check for how many f's are in the name. It's kind of neat that he even used the GWB image I've been using.

alwayswatching · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Scott Leffler
" Please note that ScottLefler is not me. So when the previous "numbskull" offends you all and attempts to defame me, check for how many f's are in the name. It's kind of neat that he even used the GWB image I've been using."

That was good, another cigar is in order! Scot and Scott-Dad, I did get the humor, but in the interest of peace, did not post a song pointing it out. Some of us have completely lost perspective, and humor. Lighten up, and check the tempers. Remember that stone you throw might bounce of me and stick to you.

mike of the mountain · Senior Member

ok there was humor - but it dies not all have to be ironic or humorous .

heating oil is a huge source of our need for oil ; to eliminate that portion of our energy needs use a geothermal heating system ;they do work today , the technalogy is already here , they cost no more than "furnaces" to install in new construction , and they dont burn any fuel at all to make heat or cool for that matter . no humor , no BS , this works . if you run the pumping for the geothermal system with a solar system for another 2 grand , you dont need to connect to the grid for heating or cooling energy , and you dont burn anything to heat your self in the winter or cool yourself in the summer . a blind man can see this is the way to go ....

hydrogen can easily be seperated from water - you just need a source of cheap abundant electricity - like a hydro electric power plant - to supply the energy to to do the seperation . no humor, no BS , it works .

it may be more efficient to use the hydro electric electricity to charge batteries in electric cars than to seperate the hydrogen though , but another no BS solution is this .