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mike of the mountain wrote: the big question here is why are we focusing on this bs , Valerie at the time was not an undercover cia operative , her cover was not blown by this event , What about the cover of everyone who knew and worked with her? You can bet they were lined up against the wall. JH

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she was an office manager type of cia employee , she was not an 007 type . if she knew of any clandestine activity it was up to her to remain silent .          there is nothing , no information that suggests any names of any actual covert operators were released .   

again she was not a cia operative , she was not involved in clandestine spy type activity , her cover was not blown -    there is no crime .  

despite what the real SL thinks the facts listed by Mark Levin are facts.  look also at an earlier motm post in this thread at the factcheck.org link  . 

Sean Hannity is the Mark Levin groupie not the other way around.                  motm

thank me very much .

Scott Leffler wrote:

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Mike, Did you answer any of my previous questions? Just cause you keep shouting the same drivel over and over with your fingers in your ears doesn't make it true. If Karl Rove did nothing wrong, why hide it?

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i was not shouting - and you were not listening - there is no reason to answer your  questions if VP was not an covert cia operative , because if she was not there was no crime - see below ,the third time i demonstrate that she is and was not - one source of information below is Joe Wilson , her husband .       please read before responding .   after you read this and understand that this is a non event ask your self why ? the media frenzy ?   then stop feeding it .  

here is some more drivel for your selves - 3 strikes , batter out .

V Plame was not i repeat not a covert operative as per the law and as per her husband Joe Wilson , facts . shown below .

 

CULLED FROM THIS SITE ;

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000426----000-.html

we have this ....

(4) The term "covert agent" means—

(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency—

(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and

(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States; or

(B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and—

(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or

(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; or

(C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency.

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then we have this ;

from here; which doesnt link , ? but copy and paste it into google and it will get you there .

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:TF9uBSDyfa4J:powerlineblog.com/archives/011038.php+VALERIE+PLAME&hl=en

We seem to have made some progess today in our efforts to answer the question. James Taranto links to this USA Today article <http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-07-14-cia-wilson_x.htm> and writes in "Best of the Web Today" <http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006961>:

Unless we're missing something, Joe Wilson has disproved his own accusation that someone in the Bush administration violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, USA Today reports:

The alleged crime at the heart of a controversy that has consumed official Washington--the "outing" of a CIA officer--may not have been a crime at all under federal law, little-noticed details in a book by the agent's husband suggest.

In The Politics of Truth, former ambassador Joseph Wilson writes that he and his future wife both returned from overseas assignments in June 1997. Neither spouse, a reading of the book indicates, was again stationed overseas. They appear to have remained in Washington, D.C., where they married and became parents of twins.

This meant that Plame would have been stationed in the U.S. for six years before Bob Novak published his column citing her two years ago today. As USA Today notes:

The column's date is important because the law against unmasking the identities of U.S. spies says a "covert agent" must have been on an overseas assignment "within the last five years." The assignment also must be long-term, not a short trip or temporary post, two experts on the law say.

All the Democrats who are braying for Karl Rove's head can't be very confident that he's committed a crime. If they were, they would wait for an indictment, which would be a genuine embarrassment to the administration.

Over at NRO's Corner, John Podhoretz <http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_07_10_corner-archive.asp> writes:

Here is Joseph Wilson himself, talking to Wolf Blitzer on CNN <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/14/wbr.01.html> today: "My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity." Read that again. Now reflect on the fact that there has been an ongoing investigation FOR TWO YEARS conducted, we were breathlessly and rather constantly told in the weeks surrounding the initial controversy, on the basis that the White House and reporters OUTED A CLANDESTINE AGENT. Now we know. She wasn't. Not then.

. thank me very much ,

Scott Leffler wrote:
 I don't think this one is going to go away by ignoring it, my friend. Go ahead and stay loyal to Rove. You have only your credibility to lose. Mike, you and I may disagree, but I've found you to be honorable. This "head in the sand" strategy is less than honorable. Open your eyes, Mike. My questions are not invalidated just cause the RNC talking points say they are.

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last night at dinner i ran this by my wife and asked if she thought i was off base ,   she did not think i was , she had come to the same conclusion that i had  , she told me the damaging info in the Joe Wilson book is on page 35 or 38 .      i play classical music fm in the shop no am radio . no rush . no sean .           we have not had outside connection to tv since 1985 .  

we both think that this is smoke and mirrors designed to keep us from following something else that is real , we arrived at that conclusion without consultuing each other .  

if what is in Joe Wilsons book is a lie , i will stand corrected , as there are other lies in the book it is a possibility - if the info regarding his wife's service is not a lie - what then ?   you have seen the law . so now what ?    my head is not in the sand .