Freedom From Religion

Paper Tigress · Veteran Member

Freedom From Religion

Scott Leffler · Guru

There's always going to be debate about "freedom OF religion" versus "freedom FROM religion." Personally, I think the First Amendment gaurantees both ... on public property. If the State is not going to "establish" religion, then it also shouldn't allow religion to be pushed on it's property. This is a moving gray line and hard to distinguish.

The cross in the memorial - I'd be fine with. A cross hanging in my daughter's classroom? Not unless it was a religion class.

On that note, I wouldn't have a problem with kids learning religion in school - as long as they learned more than just Christianity. I mean, Islam, Mormonism, Buddism, Native American beliefs, whatever. A good cross-section. BUT ... they can barely teach math and reading ... so until they get the basics down, I'll teach my own children religion. Funny how Conservatives think we should be allowed to teach religion in school, but only parents can tell their kids about birth control.

Would you like some cake? And eat it too? Seems so.

Date: Wed Jul 27 1:18 PM, 2005

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ..."

The Establishment Clause has generally come to mean that government cannot authorize a church, cannot pass laws that aid or favor one religion over another, cannot pass laws that favor religious belief over non belief, cannot force a person to profess a belief. In short, government must be neutral toward religion and cannot be entangled with any religion

You get the point,

Paper Tigress · Veteran Member

I wonder, if the government passively decline to support any specific religion, isn't it then promoting Atheism?

jspeer · Guru

I would say they are promoting equality! What do you think Mind Tigress? Religion shouldn't be taught, just respected in school. I think that schools should have a class on common sense and values...just think of it. No more people cutting you off in traffic, no more people stealing peoples identities, no more having to put stupid labels on things like hot coffee saying "Coffee is Hot" Best of all no more Dems because people would have common sense and values.LOL!

Scott Leffler · Guru

jspeer wrote:

Best of all no more Dems because people would have common sense and values.LOL!

So you're getting rid of Republicans, too?

Mindcrime · Guru

You can't teach some things. Common sense is in spite of education, not the result of it.

Date: Thu Jul 28 10:18 PM, 2005

forget about christianity, what about all the guff scientology has taken in recent weeks? we don't bother anyone, yet everyone in the media has taken potshots at us!

Mindcrime · Guru

Scientology? Scientology? Let me see if I remember this correctly: Once upon a time there was an alien overlord named Xenu, who flew other aliens to Earth, chained them to active volcanos, blew them up with hydrogen bombs, which released all the phaetons, which are now inside all of us, and are the source for all human suffering. And only through Scientology can you get those alien ghosts out of your body.

I'd become a Sientologist, but it just sounds a little far-fetched to me. If only this story contained a talking burning bush, or a virgin birth, something that made sense...