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Date: Thu Sep 1 7:14 AM, 2005

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush warned against price-gouging of gasoline Thursday in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and said looters should be treated with zero tolerance. "I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this, whether it be looting, or price-gouging at the gasoline pump or taking advantage of charitable giving, or insurance fraud," Bush said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America." story link __________________ - Scott Leffler - Host and Moderator

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Date: Thu Sep 1 8:57 PM, 2005

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Is that why gasoline is going for $6.00 a gallon in Atlanta? Is that why the price of gasoline has risen by 60 cents a gallon in the last 3 days? And a Noco attendant told us it was rising another 20 cents tomorrow? Price-gouging my @$$. This is extortion. __________________ Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. That way, when you DO criticize them, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes... If you choose any truth and follow it blindly, it becomes a falsehood, and you, a fanatic.

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Date: Fri Sep 2 6:58 AM, 2005

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"Americans should be prudent in their use of energy during the course of the next few weeks. Don't buy gas if you don't need it," Thanks for the advice, you knucklehead. Bush's Solution To Gas Shortages __________________ Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. That way, when you DO criticize them, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes... If you choose any truth and follow it blindly, it becomes a falsehood, and you, a fanatic.

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Date: Fri Sep 2 8:01 AM, 2005

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sigh Dumbest. President. Ever. __________________ What evil lurks in the hearts of men?

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Date: Fri Sep 2 3:15 PM, 2005

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Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. Why not boycott their gas? Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me. So here's a list of which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil. *These companies import Middle Eastern oil:* Shell............................ 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $55-$60 a barrel) Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Citgo......................0 barrels Sunoco...................0 barrels Conoco..................0 barrels Sinclair.................0 barrels BP/Phillips............0 barrels Hess.......................0 barrels ARC0.....................0 barrels All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. -- Edited by Mindcrime at 16:22, 2005-09-02 __________________ Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. That way, when you DO criticize them, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes... If you choose any truth and follow it blindly, it becomes a falsehood, and you, a fanatic.

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Date: Fri Sep 2 5:49 PM, 2005

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MC, It's funny, cause I was going to start a similar thread ... Back in January, I had a guest named Roger Simmermaker. (podcast) We discussed his book, "How Americans Can Buy American - The Power of Consumer Patriotism." In said book. it lists which companies are "American," which he defines as "American owned and/or controlled" companies ... i.e., the profits end up in America. Gasoline companies which are American owned: Chevron Coastal Conoco Esso Exxon Gas Express Getty Gulf Hess Kerr-McGee Marathon Martini Mobil Murphy USA Pate Petro Phillips 66 Sergaz Sinclair Sonoco pur Star Kleen STP Fuel Centers Sunoco Tenneco Texaco Ultramar Union 76 Zephyr And foreign owned companies - with country of ownership Amoco - UK Arco - UK Boron - UK BP - UK Citgo - Venezuela Fina - France Futura - Finland Red Rooster - Canada Shell - Norway Sohio - UK Standard - UK Total - France Now to compare MC's lists and mine. You'll see that Citgo, BP and Arco might not use Saudi oil, but the profits end up in the UK in two cases and Venezuala in the third. In other words, your best bets seem to be Sunoco, Conoco, Sinclair, and Hess. Link to Google Maps for ... Local Sunocos As for Hess, Conoco and Sinclair, they're basically absent from WNY. And finally, a link to BuffaloGasPrices.com which shows the prices at these Sunoco stations in the last 24 hours. Have fun. Save money. Love one another. __________________ - Scott Leffler - Host and Moderator