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There's that odd quirk again! The me, myself and I mixing up of persons-singular and plural. What's that about? Wasn't it "New Kid" that did this before? Same as Starload now? That happened with another screen name and is a very odd mistake in the English language. Anyone else notice that from before?  The "them" and "one" use is really very bizarre.  "the all powerful one is angry. Why do you think this story angered them so?" This new starloader also seems preoccupied with things other that the schools as originally claimed. As can be seen, the 5 posts brought up the important subjects. Starlip posted over these to make further complaints and to play the mundane. "Birds of a feather..."

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why do you not post as yourself ?

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There's that odd quirk again! The me, myself and I mixing up of persons-singular and plural. What's that about? Wasn't it "New Kid" that did this before? Same as Starload now? That happened with another screen name and is a very odd mistake in the English language. Anyone else notice that from before? The "them" and "one" use is really very bizarre. "the all powerful one is angry. Why do you think this story angered them so?" This new starloader also seems preoccupied with things other that the schools as originally claimed. As can be seen, the 5 posts brought up the important subjects. Starlip posted over these to make further complaints and to play the mundane. "Birds of a feather..." why do you not post as yourself ? ____________________________ There. Better?-- Edited by YOURSELF at 00:58, 2005-12-09

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tooo-shay , how many identities is that now ?

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 " Quirk no, just the use of non-gender pronouns. http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/# Basic Principle: A pronoun usually refers to something earlier in the text (its antecedent) and must agree in number — singular/plural — with the thing to which it refers. The indefinite pronouns anyone, anybody, everyone, everybody, someone, somebody, no one, and nobody are always singular. This is sometimes perplexing to writers who feel that everyone and everybody (especially) are referring to more than one person. The same is true of either and neither, which are always singular even though they seem to be referring to two things. The need for pronoun-antecedent agreement can create gender problems. If one were to write, for instance, "A student must see his counselor before the end of the semester," when there are female students about, nothing but grief will follow. One can pluralize, in this situation, to avoid the problem: Students must see their counselor before the end of the semester.Or, one could say A student must see his or her counselor. . . . Too many his's and her's eventually become annoying, however, and the reader becomes more aware of the writer trying to be conscious of good form than he or she is of the matter at hand. Trying to conform to the above rule (#2) can lead to a great deal of nonsense. It is widely regarded as being correct (or correct enough), at the beginning of the twenty-first century, to say Somebody has left their bag on the floor.

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The excerpt below is from a post Nuclearlou sent to me. The entire post is on the children's story topic in the general forum.

"Last evening, there was a viewer here from another site that was looking at the troll posts. It seems that they are having the same problems with their blog site."

This poster used the exact same term I was criticized for. If an anonymous poster wants to try and play "guilty by association" They should include Nuclearlou in their witch hunt. I have to wonder why this person was looking for troll posts on the other web site. Do you think maybe the original poster (Nuclearlou) was trying to help this host hunt "trolls" See excerpt from Troll Busters post below:

"A few other notable traits of a troll: In some instances, in particular when the troll is a trusted member of a community, you will find that the person has an unusual interest in trolls and helping the staff hunt them out. They seem overly intolerant of trolls as a way of smokescreening their own activities. They are curious, and want to know what information members and staff have about suspected trolls, sometimes even inquiring to site owners and board moderators about security and tracking measures. I liken this to a perpertrator in a crime investigation; they oftentimes offer to assist in the investigation, seemingly being very helpful, asking a lot of "thoughtful" questions, but it is merely a self-serving tactic to find out if the police suspect them and what evidence they might have."

Dear Starlight:

"the all powerful one is angry,"  is a singular reference.

"Why do you think this story angered them so?"

Following the use of a singular, the second consecutive use of  the reference to the same subject, in this case such as "them," is incorrect. The correct word to use use should have been: "Him," or "Her." It's a rather big error and one you might want to submit to memory for your future use :) No need to be embarrassed.

The posting about grammar doesn't apply in this case, that's all. I'm sorry. Vera

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that point. I do hope that you are a retired teacher.

I realize that I have been unfair to the wolf by not sharing his side of the story as I did the Troll. So in all fairness, here is what he had to say at his trial. See I am fairly certain that the wolf is a he so I won't use the non-gender pronouns just for you Vera.

http://www.shol.com/agita/wolfside.htm

SOMERSET PA (AP) -- A. Wolf took the stand today in his own defense. This shocked and stunned the media who predicted that he would not testify in the brutal double murder trial. A. Wolf is accused of killing (and eating) The First Little Pig, and The Second Little Pig. This criminal trial is expected to be followed by a civil trial to be brought by the surviving Third Little Pig. The case has been characterized as a media circus.

His testimony is transcribed below:

"Everybody knows the story of the Three Little Pigs. Or at least they think they do. But I'll let you in on a little secret. Nobody knows the real story, because nobody has ever heard my side of the story. I'm Alexander T. Wolf. You can call me Al. I don't know how this whole Big Bad Wolf thing got started, but it's all wrong. Maybe it's because of our diet. Hey, it's not my fault wolves eat cute little animals like bunnies and sheep and pigs. That's just the way we are. If cheeseburgers were cute, folks would probably think you were Big and Bad too. But like I was saying, the whole big bad wolf thing is all wrong. The real story is about a sneeze and a cup of sugar.

THIS IS THE REAL STORY.

Way back in Once Upon a Time time, I was making a birthday cake for my dear old granny. I had a terrible sneezing cold. I ran out of sugar. So I walked down the street to ask my neighbor for a cup of sugar. Now this neighbor was a pig. And he wasn't too bright either. He had built his whole house out of straw. Can you believe it? I mean who in his right mind would build a house of straw? So of course the minute I knocked on the door, it fell right in. I didn't want to just walk into someone else's house. So I called, "Little Pig, Little Pig, are you in?" No answer. I was just about to go home without the cup of sugar for my dear old granny's birthday cake.

That's when my nose started to itch. I felt a sneeze coming on. Well I huffed. And I snuffed. And I sneezed a great sneeze.

And you know what? The whole darn straw house fell down. And right in the middle of the pile of straw was the First Little Pig - dead as a doornail. He had been home the whole time. It seemed like a shame to leave a perfectly good ham dinner lying there in the straw. So I ate it up. Think of it as a cheeseburger just lying there. I was feeling a little better. But I still didn't have my cup of sugar . So I went to the next neighbor's house. This neighbor was the First Little Pig's brother. He was a little smarter, but not much. He has built his house of sticks. I rang the bell on the stick house. Nobody answered. I called, "Mr. Pig, Mr. Pig, are you in?" He yelled back."Go away wolf. You can't come in. I'm shaving the hairs on my shinny chin chin."

I had just grabbed the doorknob when I felt another sneeze coming on. I huffed. And I snuffed. And I tried to cover my mouth, but I sneezed a great sneeze.

And you are not going to believe this, but the guy's house fell down just like his brother's. When the dust cleared, there was the Second Little Pig - dead as a doornail. Wolf's honor. Now you know food will spoil if you just leave it out in the open. So I did the only thing there was to do. I had dinner again. Think of it as a second helping. I was getting awfully full. But my cold was feeling a little better. And I still didn't have that cup of sugarr for my dear old granny's birthday cake. So I went to the next house. This guy was the First and Second Little Pig's brother. He must have been the brains of the family. He had built his house of bricks. I knocked on the brick house. No answer. I called, "Mr Pig, Mr. Pig, are you in?" And do you know what that rude little porker answered? "Get out of here, Wolf. Don't bother me again."
Talk about impolite! He probably had a whole sackful of sugar. And he wouldn't give me even one little cup for my dear sweet old granny's birthday cake. What a pig!

I was just about to go home and maybe make a nice birthday card instead of a cake, when I felt my cold coming on. I huffed And I snuffed. And I sneezed once again.

Then the Third Little Pig yelled, " And your old granny can sit on a pin!" Now I'm usually a pretty calm fellow. But when somebody talks about my granny like that, I go a Little crazy. When the cops drove up, of course I was trying to break down this Pig's door. And the whole time I was huffing and puffing and sneezing and making a real scene.

The rest as they say is history.

The news reporters found out about the two pigs I had for dinner. They figured a sick guy going to borrow a cup of sugar didn't sound very exciting.

english seem s to be in a state of flux , changing slowly to dingbat .

in the latest Mcdonalds promo for their own little gift cards .   "Gift it ."  is used as a sentence .

my pet dislikes are      " I turned my car on and it ..... "   or   " I died my car when .... "   or "My car needs valve adjust and ...."

 my mom was a teacher , my daughter and wife are teachers and yet  i know little of grammer , but when it sounds wrong it sounds wrong .  i read a lot and patterns get established from that .

other languages ,when directly translated to english result in things like this    "Hold me the hammer. "      so going the other way, when i attempt  spainish , i get many strange looks from those that actually speak spainish .... they know what i mean but the order of the words and verb conjegation,  come out incorrectly .    

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Dear Starlight: I did not say that I was retired teacher. That is completly inaccurate. I am currently an English teacher with a parochial school in NT. What is your field to correct my English if I may ask politely? Can't we agree that the use was incorrect? These were not used as non-gender pronouns as you keep saying. Vera

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"I do hope that you are a retired teacher."

Wow scratch that earlier statement. If you can't read a simple post and see that I said HOPE, I need to rephrase. I pray that you are a retired teacher!

 "That is completly inaccurate."

 How about completely, take some points off for spelling as well Vera. If you are going to make yourself a self proclaimed teacher you should at least use spell cleck!

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HEY STARPUKE! Got your attention? Leave Vera alone. She was bashed here a few months ago and has just come back. Now, as a brand new user, you're F&^%*ing with her. Why do you stick your new know-nothing nose into these things anyway? You have a REAL problem.  You've made NOT ONE constructive post yourself. You ARE a Puke and The Definition of a TROLL!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

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Well, well, well StarMole: Isn't this just special too...? You're just so FULL of surprizes aren't you? You've lead everyone on here and then LIED TO US all!! How bad and naughty of you...Are you ready to be spanked for being bad? How sad that you wanted to PULL A FAST ONE with all of your sincere sounding questions and then creating all this trouble and disturbance..and just before Christmas too. Tsk, tsk. Coal for you! WOW. You really are a jerk! More to come in a while. In the meantime StarFAKE, would you care to make any further comments? There's still plenty of rope on the spool. You've taken enough now but if you want more...please just pull a little and more comes right out. You're call there Disturber of the Peace.  You aren't any bit who you have claimed to be and now hurry and go start removing posts--they've already been copied there Friend. Remember that radio guy Paul Harvey--The Rest Of The Story!

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I just can't wait to hear the rest of your twisted story anonymous. I was given a list of topics to read and told how to search out other issues that some really warped poster wanted me to see. So guess what, I put Vera into the little box just for the heck of it yesterday because I knew I had read that name. And much to my surprise she seems to be a phantom of sorts. Popped in when a certain poster felt he was not keeping control of topics. Then Vera leaves for several months only to reappear when that same poster got all bent out of shape over some stories. Did you notice that really only one poster felt the need to defend himself regarding these stories? I really like it when on one tread he claims to never post anonymously but then posts anonymously. It is really hard if not impossible for him to cover up that contempt for others present in his posts.

Copy away anonymous, what is it you are trying to prove? So far I think I have been accused of being 6 or 7 different people, all of this from a poster who has at least 10 sign in names on this board alone. Oh yeah, copy away anonymous! Guess what you’re not even getting warm.

I do wonder why you feel the need to post here. From what I see on this site topics get abandoned all the time unless someone keeps the issue current. Is there something specific about this topic that gets under your transparent skin? Again, I posted a couple of stories that most posters ignored. Now I'm expected to believe that you the big bad anonymous poster are the topic police. The more you post, the more I use the search box up top. How long do you wish to dance this dance?

Now Sue, er Starlight, do you mean "Again, I posted a couple of stories that most posters ignored," as being your admission that you posted the information about Scott's blog closing and that you are Sue Hughes posting under another screen name? That IS what you mean, right?

You are speaking about those "couple of posts," right? Seems like that's the topic you're trying to defend. Hmmm. Why would Shughes make posts like the "new" Starlight has lately?