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Why are women from niagara county so vocal?  I know this is a scary subject for the male population, but it seems that more females are challenging the system than males.


Makes you wonder doesn't it!!!  Maybe we just have spent to much time bottled up in our houses, doing women's work, and need a way to make our thoughts heard.


Several women have been quite vocal regarding Niagara County, whether it be politics, money, education, etc. 


After reading several different forums re: Niagara County and keeping up with the national news, women seem to be quite the pain in the... when it comes to speaking out.  Don't you agree?


I would like to hear your take on this, oh and let's abide by the forum rules and keep this site clean and eye gauging to a minimum?  I know how some of you like to take personal potshots at others who just want their voice heard.


What women in Niagara County are vocal because they actually have a brain and are not afraid to use it?  Obviously our male counterparts open their mouth constantly without thinking first.  Don't get me wrong, there are males that think before they speak, such as our own Scott Leffler.


I would like to hear from the public about this special topic before I post my list of women in NC that are not afraid to go toe to toe with the system.


Hope to see postings from both sides, and please feel free, if your a man, to give us your list of vocal males in NC and their accomplishments.



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i am not scared - i like women , even vocal women .   

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So your not scared of vocal women - Mike of the Mountain.


Okay lets start this topic with a very vocal woman from Niagara Co.


Paulette Klein - our infamous Niag. Co. Health Commissioner


She is definitely on my list for most vocal, but I can't say that she is at the top of my list for best vocals.


My personal opinion is that she missed her calling as a state senator.  Don't you think that she would give Maz. a run for his money.  Oh that's right, he has a war chest.  Maybe Mr. Ridge can give her a helping hand.


Thoughts??



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So your not scared of vocal women - Mike of the Mountain. Okay lets start this topic with a very vocal woman from Niagara Co. Paulette Klein - our infamous Niag. Co. Health Commissioner She is definitely on my list for most vocal, but I can't say that she is at the top of my list for best vocals. My personal opinion is that she missed her calling as a state senator.  Don't you think that she would give Maz. a run for his money.  Oh that's right, he has a war chest.  Maybe Mr. Ridge can give her a helping hand. Thoughts??




i cannot comment on your local politics ; i can be vocal , but i am not local . at least not to your location .     i am 7 hours away east at 64 mph with one stop for the wife to use the little girls room .    


i have never spoken to PK , but i have spoken to people at NCHD in the recent past and the engineer i spoke to seemed to be very professional and was easy to speak to , he answered my questions and provided the documentation i requested even though he knew where i was from and the reasons i was requesting the documentation .    i explained myself and the reasons for my conclusions , the engineer did not disagree and had arrived at the same conclusion before i had .


what i do think is different from my to your area is the way the DEC enforces , things - it appears enforcment in your county is "lax" , but around here DEC is more active or professional or something , it is common to see articles in the paper about what the DEC thinks about things and what they are doing about things , not gestapo like , just that the DEC is involved and availible -  i dont see the same involvment / availibility in your area ..... ?    with CWM ? FMC ?


did you know that enviornmental impact statements affecting areas in NYS must be published on the web in NYS , now ?     prior to project approval ?  


            last weekend  there was the article in the gazzette that suggested niagara county wait for a new administration to begin any "activity" regarding CWM ?    we have at least  3 sites within  5 miles of where i sit that have pce/tce groundwater contamination , DEC and EPA are very involved with all and progress is being made on all , none is a 10th of some problems in niagara county let alone the LOOW site or CWM  ?? or FMC . ?       as new problems are identified DEC gets involved , no prompting , here .     not there , at least from what i see .  


       as per DOH and CDC our cancer death rate is higher that that of niagara county .....   but we dont have any sites as contaminated  as what niagara county has    ..... that alone, i believe is reason to question the figures , niagara county cancer death rates should be higher than where i am , ? and yet ....                                       


             there is a few thoughts.  



-- Edited by mike of the mountain at 22:44, 2006-03-21

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Here's the problem as I see it...


In one area, Mike Webb of the mountains-of-Dutchess County, admits that he has concerns and questions about the truth-trustworthiness and meaning of a health report from one agency (there in his area, or federal level) but yet, on another occasion, thread and or  forum, he will defend other reports from less qualified agencies here. What's that about?


He has further questioned the accounting of state collected morbidity rates and death certificates on yet another thread. So, which is it and why the contradictions?


A. Mike, did you ever serve in the armed forces and were you honorably discharged? Will you answer the above and where you graduated high school? You've been asked numerous times by at least two posters here on this board and once at the Niagara Gazette.  See A.


Because of these lingering questions, contradictions and your unwillingness to respond, your honor could easily be questioned. **Besides: IMHO--I think you and your family members are pretty much all low-life and scummy for doing what you have done here on this blog. Today, you and yours caused the "Bet You Didn't Know Niagara's Environmental Health" Niagara Gazette thread to be removed. Yep. Pretty scummy alrighty. At the Gazette forum, there was a huge amount of important information that may have helped even one single person--or maybe a child through their parent. Maybe one. Who will know? --  


---You, your cousin Dovey-Jenny Banas, along with SHues-Starlight-Gatekeeper from the R-H school board, trolled until the newspaper finally pulled that thread this afternoon. That string of information had been viewed more than 12,500 times. Yep. Now it's gone.


In My Most Honest and not so humble Opinion you are real scummy and trashy to the person in your clan. Any comments Shoues board member, Mr. Mike Webb of Mike Webb's Foreign Car Garage, or Ms. Jenny Velzy-Banas, of L and J Originals from Wolcott, New York--the area, 150 and 450 miles away respectively?



-- Edited by nuclearlou at 21:44, 2006-03-27

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You know, I wish that ya all would stick to the topic.  Vocal Women in Niag. co.


What is your problem NL?  I started this thread so that we could get some quality discussions going about Niag. Co. and you seem to be having a difficult time with it.


If you have an issue, start your own thread.  I would like to stay with the current topic.  If you continue to "bully" everybody on this thread, no one will get to talk about the rich culture of Niag. Co.  They will be too busy trying to put you in your place.


So lets keep it clean and back on topic. 



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Dear "4 Post Mary"
Thanks for asking but I have no "problem."
"Quality discussion" or BAITING? Quality discussion...LOL!
I have issue with your first "quality" poster. Take this up with him. He's not a woman either--I don't think.
"Bully everyone on this thread." Hmm. Me, you and Mikeofthemountain...I only posted to him. Oh, and it isn't bullying when this guy just caused havoc to another one of my threads. I am sorry dear.

Tell Paulette that I said hello...you mentioned her. Fishing gear is in the back.

-- Edited by nuclearlou at 22:36, 2006-03-27

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NL writes:


"Quality discussion" or BAITING?
I have issue with your first "quality" poster. Take this up with him.


I take offense to the word "Baiting", but I hope both of you will take your fight onto your own thread.  This is not open for argument.  We should all be able to communicate without attacking. 


I would be interested in any vocal women that you feel would fit the bill for this topic!



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And I take offense at your use of the word "Bully." Sounds about even for now.

MY MOM. Who once went looking for Bill Ross, took her shoe off just like ol' Nikita and banged on the counter demanding to see him. Unfortunately, she's dead. She was outspoken and did get to see and yell at him wholeheartedly. He most likely deserved more but she was a lady.

Does "vocal" and outspoken, mean politics and political things--good and bad?

And just a question but how do "vocal women" and "rich culture" fit together?

-- Edited by nuclearlou at 22:44, 2006-03-27

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Good post NL.  I think if your outspoken and people listen, then I gues it qualifies.


Most mom's are quite vocal when their buttons are pushed.


My mom is not vocal but has a wealth of knowledge to share with those who want to listen.


So what do you think about Paulete Klein?  Is she a good or bad vocalist in your opinion?



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Now you're scarin' me Mary.


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Whats so scaryyy?  Are you refering to my mom or PK?



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No, no, no...NOT YOUR MOTHER! Mary, mary.

Let me set this straight and put you in your place.
YOU scare me about the same as PK. That's what I mean.

Why not get one of the ladies to post here and let Mike answer if he was ever honorably discharged (or not). Unless you consider him one. Then we can get to some meaningful, vibrantly delightful cultural-JabberJaw.

Otherwise, this is all just discharge , in All seriousness and no offense intended.

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Well, I obviously dont know who is a lady and who is a man.  Are you a lady?  I am.

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This seemed like a good topic that would invoke some nice chatter, but that obviously is not possible when NL posts.   Sorry, but this thread is done.


I guess I will just go back to reading posts and forget about any meaningful communications. 


One last thing, read non-sequitor.



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Talking about -- Who were your top five or ten Niagara County women that you could list...besides the Niagara County Industrial Hygiene girl.

Oh No Mar...you're not offended are you? I would have talked all day about PK if you had said at first that she was so interesting to you. Wow, and I just saw the Non-Seq post that you made (LOL) and I sure am glad that it was in jest by being over there.

Oh Mary, I'm so sorry that your decision to chum-up with some was poorly timed. Try again at another time.

-- Edited by nuclearlou at 00:06, 2006-03-28

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Well, Mary, when I read your post, the first two women that popped into my mind were Phyllis Green and Renae Kimble. Unfortunately, while both of these women are vocal and unapologetic, I feel like they often become a little too confrontational and that their strong opinions get in the way of their ability to re-think some of their stances. IMO, I think they end up on the wrong side of the debate in a lot of cases because of this. 


 



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