Leave it to the BBC

Scott Leffler · Guru

Leave it to the BBC

Dovey · Senior Member

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Originally posted by: Scott Leffler
"So get this, BBC News has a story about FBI investigations of flushing a Koran down the toilet at Gitmo ... from two years ago. I'm sure Newsweek made it up, though. Dan Rather told me they did. Story Link"

from the size of it in the pic. I do not think it would fit.

Paper Tigress · Veteran Member

Quote from an anonymous FBI agent: "After interviewing a detainee, an unnamed FBI agent wrote on 1 August 2002: "Personally, he has nothing against the United States. The guards in the detention facility do not treat him well. Their behaviour is bad."

Seems like for years we have heard nothing but bad news from this place. Is anyone doing a respectable job down there?

mike of the mountain · Senior Member

the people in the prison in gitmo were captured on the feild of battle fighting against American soldiers , attempting to kill american soldiers , they are POWs and as such deserve the treatment afforded to POWs . they should be fed and provided with BASIC needs and that is all . who cares if they are un-happy or uncomfortable ?

looking at my toilets and any book , i dont think that even the tiniest book i have would ever go down when flushed .....

as per the book "they Just Dont Get It " this kind of tactic by the enemy is explained and documented http://www.tradebit.com/interact.php/10582/refer .

so our lying media has pissed off our enemies , with lies and fabrications causing at least 17 deaths in other countries . and now our enemies are mad at America for an event that did not happen - the media wrings their pansie hands and attempts to weasle out of the responsability for their actions .... again .

and the blivet , Dan Rather gets the Peabody award ... ??? for his fabrications or his lies ? [ ask me what a blivet is . ]

meanwhile Americans in western Ny and accross America die , slowly horribly , at great cost to society, from things that could be fixed . and nary a whimper from the media .... what is wrong with this picture ?

jspeer · Guru

I'll bite...what is a blivet?

Paper Tigress · Veteran Member

I'll bite, how is it a 2-inch blurb in Newsweek is "the cause" of 17 deaths in overseas riots, and our foreign policy, our military, and our completely arrogant behavior world-wide isn't at fault for anything?

jspeer · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Paper Tigress
"I'll bite, how is it a 2-inch blurb in Newsweek is "the cause" of 17 deaths in overseas riots, and our foreign policy, our military, and our completely arrogant behavior world-wide isn't at fault for anything?"

I think that what MOTM is saying is that our Democrat media blames our President and republicans for american casualties of war. If they would not post Anti-American crap on the news we would be a lot better off. My question to you is how many American lives were lost because of Mike Moore's fictional movie. It was a big hit in the Middle East. I hope we never stop fighting until every last terrorist towel head has been killed.

mike of the mountain · Senior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: Paper Tigress
"I'll bite, how is it a 2-inch blurb in Newsweek is "the cause" of 17 deaths in overseas riots, and our foreign policy, our military, and our completely arrogant behavior world-wide isn't at fault for anything?"

the enemy spin doctors launched a blitz of BS with the newsweek story as a base , to prove that the Americans were infidels and all who supported the Americans were infidels , worthy of death - so those people who were / are freinds and allies of America were victimised by incited ignorrant crowds that did not know the truth .... by lies that began with our media .

   our foreign policy is not arrogant , we were attacked , we have identified the attackers and we seek to prevent further attacks , doom on them .



"I'll bite...what is a blivet ?"    a blivit is 10 pounds of poop in a 5 pound bag .

Mindcrime · Guru

Man, you like to use that word propoganda, as if it doesn't mean "factual information." Too bad it does...

Originally posted by: mike of the mountain
"our foreign policy is not arrogant , we were attacked , we have identified the attackers and we seek to prevent further attacks , doom on them ."

Umm, no they didn't. We started with them years ago, sticking our nose in their business. That's what pissed them off. Muslims have been around for thousands of years. Why did they decide to hate us so recently? Do you think Allah appeared on earth one day, changed his holiest of texts, and all of a sudden, now Americans are evil infidels?

Also, if our media is so anti-american, why don't they honor the americans that gave their lives by showing their return to american soil? What about the lies our government tells, not to mention their own self-serving propoganda?

mike of the mountain · Senior Member

Mindcrime wrote:

Man, you like to use that word propoganda, as if it doesn't mean "factual information." Too bad it does... Originally posted by: mike of the mountain"our foreign policy is not arrogant , we were attacked , we have identified the attackers and we seek to prevent further attacks , doom on them ." Umm, no they didn't. ummm , yes they did .    doom on them .

We started with them years ago, sticking our nose in their business.we only wanted the oil , they deperately needed our engineering and MONEY . That's what pissed them off. Muslims have been around for thousands of years.no actually the prophet mohamed [founder of the islamic religion] lived about 600 ad or ce , he was the beginning of a military buildup followed by war and imperialisim that reached as far as spain and italy ..... and inspired the crusades {kinda sorta} .

Why did they decide to hate us so recently? Do you think Allah    [or YHWH as there was no reference to allah in earlier texts] appeared on earth one day, changed his holiest of texts, SEE DUETERONOMY CHAPTER 4 VERSE 2 the everett fox translation direct from hebrew to engish is best or the JPS version  hebrew to engish and all of a sudden, now Americans are evil infidels?   no , the wahhabis didnt begin their "propaganda" of lies until the 1800s , generations since then have been educated by their extreme veiws in the scriptures ,    prior to the wahhabi / saudi state and    after the original defeats of the muslim empire when things became stable , they [the less radical islamics] were accepting the co existence of the Christians and Jews inside their territory with the payment of a special tax .

Also, if our media is so anti-american, why don't they honor the americans that gave their lives by showing their return to american soil? ???? what ??? how does that honor them ????    where is the question here ???

What about the lies our government tells, not to mention their own self-serving propoganda? the government serves us , their lies serve us . ??? much of the time ; except when they kill us .

it does not mean that we are not fighting a real war , with a real enemy that wants us all either to convert to wahhabiisim , or die .

                yes i can show that some of the government agencies are fabricating facts and expecting us to believe them ;          for instance CDC and NYS DOH and Army Core of Engineers .     and i am just a rookie at it , but few people care when i show facts to support my arguments .

the whole thing with DU ,   ?? which is the truth there ???

               The famous Nuclear Lou has 5 years of info gathering under his belt [with what he has discovered and the lack of response he must be very frustrated ] showing problems related to radioactive waste dumping and government response to it - most people even if they live in the shadow of the dumpsites want to believe what is posted on the agency websites , i used to .   Until it killed my mother .   then i started seeking facts to see how the government statistics for your area show a reduced level of cancer incedence and mortality when anecdotal evidence suggests other wise .    ok , somebody is fudging the numbers . anyone can find government studies [which were subsequently disallowed by the same governement agency? ] to prove the government statistics false ,     what next ?