Lockport Journal's opinion or is it personal?

Scott Leffler · Guru

RE: Lockport Journal's opinion or is it personal?

Nitrogen_Widget · Senior Member

Scott Leffler wrote:

Nitrogen_Widget wrote: alwayswatching wrote: The firemen can't be heard in the paper. The paper only seems to print what the mayor says. The US&J is the most available medium for news in the city & it never seems to print anything from the persepctive of the firemen themselves. I am also not fireman or related to one. I just don't care much for biased news stories. Well - now you've found a new medium ... accessable 24/7 ... and no one will delete your posts ... but expect to be asked to explain yourself.

Of course I expect to be expected to explain myself.

I’m not a politician.

alwayswatching · Guru

Scott Leffler wrote:

Nitrogen_Widget wrote: alwayswatching wrote: The firemen can't be heard in the paper. The paper only seems to print what the mayor says. The US&J is the most available medium for news in the city & it never seems to print anything from the persepctive of the firemen themselves. I am also not fireman or related to one. I just don't care much for biased news stories. Well - now you've found a new medium ... accessable 24/7 ... and no one will delete your posts ... but expect to be asked to explain yourself.

Hey Scott, I didn't write any of this. Something is wrong with the quote feature. Go back and look, nothing in the above quote, or several other, is mine.

Having said that, nw go back and read the posts only not the quotes. And I think you will see that things got mixed up. I offered a sugestion on how to accomplish what someone else posted. I never claimed to have anything and said so when you questioned it. You did fly off the handle, I stand by that post. It was a logical solution to get to the bottom of things. You think I'm smug, so what, what does it have to do with anything.

-- Edited by alwayswatching at 18:15, 2005-06-06

Date: Mon Jun 6 6:31 PM, 2005

alwayswatching wrote:

Scott Leffler wrote:

Nitrogen_Widget wrote: alwayswatching wrote: The firemen can't be heard in the paper. The paper only seems to print what the mayor says. The US&J is the most available medium for news in the city & it never seems to print anything from the persepctive of the firemen themselves. I am also not fireman or related to one. I just don't care much for biased news stories. Well - now you've found a new medium ... accessable 24/7 ... and no one will delete your posts ... but expect to be asked to explain yourself.

Hey Scott, I didn't write any of this. Something is wrong with the quote feature. Go back and look, nothing in the above quote, or several other, is mine.
Having said that, nw go back and read the posts only not the quotes. And I think you will see that things got mixed up. I offered a sugestion on how to accomplish what someone else posted. I never claimed to have anything and said so when you questioned it. You did fly off the handle, I stand by that post. It was a logical solution to get to the bottom of things. You think I'm smug, so what, what does it have to do with anything. -- Edited by alwayswatching at 18:15, 2005-06-06

I'm not going back to pore through that mess.
I disagreed with you or with something I thought you said due to the qoute option & people constantly either changing or deleting their posts with only quoted sections remaining.

If that's flying off the handle to you than so be it.
It is easy to misconstrue tone in text.
I consider insults & rabid political rants flying off the handle.

If you say you were mis quoted. (I made a funny) Then fine.
Sorry if I misunderstood you.

And just because I think someone is smug doesn't mean I've decided I don't like them.

Nitrogen_Widget · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

alwayswatching wrote:
Scott Leffler wrote:

Nitrogen_Widget wrote: alwayswatching wrote: The firemen can't be heard in the paper. The paper only seems to print what the mayor says. The US&J is the most available medium for news in the city & it never seems to print anything from the persepctive of the firemen themselves. I am also not fireman or related to one. I just don't care much for biased news stories. Well - now you've found a new medium ... accessable 24/7 ... and no one will delete your posts ... but expect to be asked to explain yourself.

Hey Scott, I didn't write any of this. Something is wrong with the quote feature. Go back and look, nothing in the above quote, or several other, is mine.
Having said that, nw go back and read the posts only not the quotes. And I think you will see that things got mixed up. I offered a sugestion on how to accomplish what someone else posted. I never claimed to have anything and said so when you questioned it. You did fly off the handle, I stand by that post. It was a logical solution to get to the bottom of things. You think I'm smug, so what, what does it have to do with anything. -- Edited by alwayswatching at 18:15, 2005-06-06

I'm not going back to pore through that mess.
I disagreed with you or with something I thought you said due to the qoute option & people constantly either changing or deleting their posts with only quoted sections remaining.

If that's flying off the handle to you than so be it.
It is easy to misconstrue tone in text.
I consider insults & rabid political rants flying off the handle.

If you say you were mis quoted. (I made a funny) Then fine.
Sorry if I misunderstood you.

And just because I think someone is smug doesn't mean I've decided I don't like them.

Darn.
Forgot to log in.

Date: Mon Jun 6 10:52 PM, 2005

alwayswatching wrote:

kspeer wrote:
Dad'saff, why did you edit your post? Those facts should be known.-- Edited by kspeer at 11:38, 2005-06-06

Ks, I think it was pulled because the whole story was not known yet. You are right, those facts are important. But they were used to take me down a peg using the wrong assumptions. I think thats why they were pulled.
So I'm going to be very clear. I support the LPFD, because they do a very difficult job and do it well. I do not support the way they are behaving. They don't seem to understand that this community can not afford anymore. And yes, they are acting like children.

The firemen need to hire someone to do their PR. They're a great bunch of guys but don't know how to make themselves look good without putting their foot in their mouth. Keep up the great work and let your work speak for itself.

Date: Tue Jun 7 11:58 AM, 2005

After reading through all of this, one thing really bugs me. I am offended by the comment that public employees are "spoiled". I have been a City employee for more than 10 years. Do you know that as a single parent, my child qualifies for free lunches at school? I've been here 10+ years and I'm still considered "working poor" by NYS income standards! Yeah, I feel real spoiled!!! By the way, before you comment on my education I have a Bachelor's Degree, just couldn't find work in the area and I didn't want to move away from family. Take another posters advice, before you belittle the City employees, walk a mile in their shoes!

alwayswatching · Guru

"I think the politics are so toxic," Hevesi said, "I think the relationships are so awful, I think there is so much mistrust, a lot of it legitimate, I think there's been such a level of deception, that we have to bring in adult supervision in the form of a control board." 6/7/05 Buffalo News

Words to live by, we should take the hint!

DadsaFF · Novice

Testing my avitar

-- Edited by DadsaFF at 06:11, 2005-06-08

Date: Wed Jun 8 10:20 AM, 2005

Anonymous wrote:

I disagreed with you or with something I thought you said due to the qoute option & people constantly either changing or deleting their posts with only quoted sections remaining. If that's flying off the handle to you than so be it. It is easy to misconstrue tone in text.

It should be noted that when you quote someone, using the 'Quote' feature, the text that imports is just as editable as the rest of your text. So someone could have doctored it, or they hit a key by mistake and copied something in by accident. Just be careful when you quote. Personally, I think the quote feature is overused. If someone writes a 50-line opinion, and you're the next one posting, quoting the entire thing over again is unecessary. Even if a post or two above, just start by addressing their name, then address their thoughts. This, of course, illustrates the handiness of a sign-in name, but I won't go there. (It might also be wise to question any quote made by an anonymous source, but since I post anonymously myself, I won't go there either.

As far as miscontruing tones, let's use the smiley's if the tone of our syntax is unclear...

Phantom

Nitrogen_Widget · Senior Member

I think it's more about people being the victim of too much sensitivity training.

Note the lack of a after that sentence.

Note the lack of after the previous sentence also.

Do I need to keep going?

Date: Wed Jun 8 5:25 PM, 2005

I love Lockport!The people,The canel,The history.

Date: Fri Oct 28 4:58 AM, 2005

Anonymous wrote:

I love Lockport!The people,The canel,The history.

LOCKPORT
An all-clear given to unlock canal history
By THOMAS J. PROHASKA
NEWS NIAGARA BUREAU
10/27/2005

LOCKPORT - As local and state officials commemorated the 180th anniversary of the opening of the Erie Canal on Wednesday, the man in charge of restoring the original locks said a potential major delay in the project has been avoided.

Peter J. Welsby, chairman of the city's Flight of Five Committee, said testing of the sediment that has built up in the 19th century locks since they were closed to traffic more than 90 years ago showed that it was not hazardous.

Welsby said the sediment was feared to contain industrial toxins such as dioxin or PCBs, but the tests showed only "baseline levels" of those chemicals.

"It's the best answer we could have," Welsby said.

It means the sediment, about 740 cubic yards or 1,035 tons of it, can be removed from the stone locks and dumped in any ordinary landfill rather than one reserved for hazardous waste.

It also means the removal will be faster and cheaper. Welsby said the sediment may remain until spring, because more sediment has to be kept from piling up.

"If we remove the sediment and do nothing else, the sediment will just come back," he said.

Mayor Michael W. Tucker devoted much of his speech at the re-enactment of the canal's opening ceremony to the Flight of Five project. The city has $2.9 million in federal and state money in hand to start the work, which is expected to be completed in 2007.

"In my inaugural speech in 2004, I committed to doing the Flight of Five project. This project will happen," Tucker vowed. "The first time we went to Albany to talk about it, they told us we could expect hundreds of thousands of visitors. It'll be the only place in the world where the old locks and the new locks will be operating side by side."

Welsby said a laser scanner will come to the locks in November to make records of the condition and position of all the stones in the Flight of Five for use in restoration planning.

Wednesday's event, however, concentrated on the past.

After arriving at the foot of the locks on a Lockport Locks & Erie Canal Cruises boat about 9 a.m., as a cannon was fired by Tim Korff of Lyndonville, local historians and Tucker read speeches meant to simulate those given in 1825.

The dignitaries returned to the boat and went through the locks at 10 a.m. to the accompaniment of two more blasts from the cannon. About 200 schoolchildren from Lockport and Royalton-Hartland lined the railings of the locks and the Pine Street Bridge.

"I'm so excited. I was afraid no one was going to come," said Craig Bacon, co-chairman of the city's Celebrations and Events Committee.

"Lockport is the only city on the canal that grew out of a construction camp," said Carmella R. Mantello, director of New York State Canal Corp.

She praised Lockport's "desire, vision and dedication" to restoring canal history in what Welsby called the "Lockport Locks Heritage District."

Date: Fri Oct 28 7:29 AM, 2005

Mike Murphy of the Lockport Locks and Canal Tours lobbied for years in Albany for this project--on the public dime. Each time he went to Albany to promote this or that he was promoting this money for his business. He got his way. Again on the public dime.

The sediment is "clean" as stated by a city who? Would those test results be public? Scott, could you ask that question of someone in Mayor Mike's office and then post them here, please? And, quit doing that tabloid journalism would ya?

Date: Fri Oct 28 12:11 PM, 2005

You're kidding. Mike Murphy thinks lobbying is what you do while waiting to get into a movie. The guy is so dumb it's amazing he knows how to breath. His old lady is the brains behind that whole operation.