BRIAN GREAR SHOWS SUCH DISRESPECT FOR TOWN LAWS and he wants to be Sheriff??

Date: Mon Sep 12 1:59 PM, 2005

RE: BRIAN GREAR SHOWS SUCH DISRESPECT FOR TOWN LAWS and he wants to be Sheriff??

shughes · Senior Member

See I knew it was a law, thanks anon.

Phantom · Veteran Member

Just out of curiosity, where does the law stand on stealing signs which are on public property, like street corners?

Jim Sacco · Senior Member

Jim Sacco wrote:

I HAVE OBSERVED A POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT TO ELECT BRIAN GREAR for SHERIFF ON TRANSIT ROAD IN PENDLETON (link below). PENDLETON HAS AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT POLITICAL SIGNS TO BE ONLY ONE MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION.

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/jasacco14094/GrearforSheriffpoliticalsignonTrans.jpg

HOW CAN WE VOTE FOR A MAN TO BE OUR CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHEN HE SHOWS SUCH A TREMENDOUS DISRESPECT FOR LOCAL TOWN LAWS???? -- Edited by Jim Sacco at 18:22, 2005-07-27

Since Brian Grear had told me he read my original message, it is time to bring it back since the primary election is over.

Brian Grear should know that the Town of Pendleton Code requires that all political advertisements be taken down within two days after the primary election, and cannot be put up again until four weeks before the general election. This includes your snowplow advertisement on a vacant lot on Transit Road, Mr. Grear.

Hopefully Mr. Grear reads this message and respectfully attempts to comply with the local ordinance. But we will see.

Jim Sacco

jspeer · Guru

Is there a law on the books for kickin' someones ass for stealing a sign out of my yard 3o days before the election?

shughes · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Larceny is a crime involving stealing. Under common law, larceny is the 1) trespassory 2) taking and asportation 3) of the (tangible) personal property 4) of another 5) with the intent to deprive him or her of it 6) permanently.

kspeer · Senior Member

"Brian Grear should know that the Town of Pendleton Code requires that all political advertisements be taken down within two days after the primary election, and cannot be put up again until four weeks before the general election. This includes your snowplow advertisement on a vacant lot on Transit Road, Mr. Grear. " - Jim Sacco
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If this is the case, why did either candidate have their signs up at all since there was no primary for Sherriff? That would apply to Beilein also. It's already been one day. We'll see how many signs come down for BOTH candidates.

Scott Leffler · Guru

To be fair, KSpeer, there was a write in campaign for Sheriff in the ... I think it was Independence Party. So ... ya never know.

niagaranow · Veteran Member

I was driving all over the Town of Pendleton yesterday for work, and it made me think of this BB. Hurry up and take a ride and check out those signs for the race for Sheriff. Was interesting! See how many are set in the Right of Way of the road, and who's signs they are. Then take notice of how many signs are in people's front yards, and which candidate they belong to. I was nothing short of amazed.

Date: Wed Sep 14 9:06 PM, 2005

Two days after the election is tomorrow. That is when they should be taken down.

Nitrogen_Widget · Senior Member

Just leave 'em up.
They make a great place to hang your christmas lights.

Mindcrime · Guru

Leave 'em up as long as they want. Just write "sucks" under each name.

shughes · Senior Member

Jim Sacco wrote:

Jim Sacco wrote: I HAVE OBSERVED A POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT TO ELECT BRIAN GREAR for SHERIFF ON TRANSIT ROAD IN PENDLETON (link below). PENDLETON HAS AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT POLITICAL SIGNS TO BE ONLY ONE MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION. https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/jasacco14094/GrearforSheriffpoliticalsignonTrans.jpg HOW CAN WE VOTE FOR A MAN TO BE OUR CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHEN HE SHOWS SUCH A TREMENDOUS DISRESPECT FOR LOCAL TOWN LAWS???? -- Edited by Jim Sacco at 18:22, 2005-07-27 Since Brian Grear had told me he read my original message, it is time to bring it back since the primary election is over. Brian Grear should know that the Town of Pendleton Code requires that all political advertisements be taken down within two days after the primary election, and cannot be put up again until four weeks before the general election. This includes your snowplow advertisement on a vacant lot on Transit Road, Mr. Grear. Hopefully Mr. Grear reads this message and respectfully attempts to comply with the local ordinance. But we will see. Jim Sacco

OK come on Mr Sacco, get some real issues (political issues). I think it's very apparent that this is not an issue. If it were something would have been done about it before now. Show me the registered letters sent by town officials saying this is a violation of local law. I am willing to go out on a limb and say they don't exist. I'm sure if you tried you could find a more pertinent issue to debate.

Nitrogen_Widget · Senior Member

niagaranow wrote:

I was driving all over the Town of Pendleton yesterday for work, and it made me think of this BB. Hurry up and take a ride and check out those signs for the race for Sheriff. Was interesting! See how many are set in the Right of Way of the road, and who's signs they are. Then take notice of how many signs are in people's front yards, and which candidate they belong to. I was nothing short of amazed.

I was only on Bear Ridge yesterday & Greer signs were definitely the majority in the front yard department.

Date: Fri Sep 16 8:01 PM, 2005

shughes wrote:

Jim Sacco wrote: Jim Sacco wrote: I HAVE OBSERVED A POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT TO ELECT BRIAN GREAR for SHERIFF ON TRANSIT ROAD IN PENDLETON (link below). PENDLETON HAS AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT POLITICAL SIGNS TO BE ONLY ONE MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION. https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/jasacco14094/GrearforSheriffpoliticalsignonTrans.jpg HOW CAN WE VOTE FOR A MAN TO BE OUR CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHEN HE SHOWS SUCH A TREMENDOUS DISRESPECT FOR LOCAL TOWN LAWS???? -- Edited by Jim Sacco at 18:22, 2005-07-27 Since Brian Grear had told me he read my original message, it is time to bring it back since the primary election is over. Brian Grear should know that the Town of Pendleton Code requires that all political advertisements be taken down within two days after the primary election, and cannot be put up again until four weeks before the general election. This includes your snowplow advertisement on a vacant lot on Transit Road, Mr. Grear. Hopefully Mr. Grear reads this message and respectfully attempts to comply with the local ordinance. But we will see. Jim Sacco OK come on Mr Sacco, get some real issues (political issues). I think it's very apparent that this is not an issue. If it were something would have been done about it before now. Show me the registered letters sent by town officials saying this is a violation of local law. I am willing to go out on a limb and say they don't exist. I'm sure if you tried you could find a more pertinent issue to debate.

Shughes,

If this is not a real issue, why do you keep responding??

If Grear had any respect for local municipalities, he would take his poltical advertisements down until October 9.

What other disrespect will he show towards the municipalities he is suppose to serve?? Take away our road patrol?? Why not, it is the only place he can cut the budget??

Date: Fri Sep 16 8:03 PM, 2005

Sorry,

I forgot to sign in. That last response was from me.

Jim Sacco

shughes · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Shughes, If this is not a real issue, why do you keep responding??

Because it really seems to bug you.

Jim Sacco · Senior Member

shughes wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Shughes, If this is not a real issue, why do you keep responding?? Because it really seems to bug you.

shughes,

I am glad you really like to bug me. Hopefully it helps you learn to keep your arguements within the context of the topic being addressed.

Date: Mon Sep 19 6:46 PM, 2005

Jim,

If you had a clue what you were talking about, or the fact that you have helped Mr. Grear in his name recognition for this campaign – you would stop posting. You are not exactly helping with the image of the rest of us democrats. It’s bad enough we have a PR problem currently, but you just keep adding to the fire. If you like reading your name, start another topic and address some issues – if you dare.

NuclearLou · Senior Member

Jim:

Is any of the stuff on the other thread accurate about the CWM post, the NYSDEC etc? Did I miss something in a previous thread here? Is that why you said our discussions would be "limited" over on the Hello Jim Thread? Why in the world didn't you just say this about CWM??

Why has there been so much discussion and attention paid to these other issues when there have been so many pressing environmental discussions here that could have benefited from your communicating with us? I'm feeling really rather disappointed and crestfallen that this wasn't known to me until just now. Were ALL of my environmental comments fair game to Corporate Giants and Regulators alike? Sure, I know, I know, public bulletin board and all...

Seems kind of unfair that this was kept under the rug (or landfill liner), so to speak. If I'm wrong on this and somewhere on the board you disclosed that you're a NYSDEC monitor at Chemical Waste Management at the LOOW site Model City Lewiston-Porter, NY, then I will apologize.

Otherwise, I could go on...

Say it ain't so.

LR

Ps-Sorry for being off-post sort-of to those who wish to drone on and on about signs--forevermore.

-- Edited by NuclearLou at 21:04, 2005-09-19

Date: Tue Sep 20 8:42 PM, 2005

What you just said was more important than signs Lou, so don't apologise!

shughes · Senior Member

Jim Sacco wrote:

shughes, I am glad you really like to bug me. Hopefully it helps you learn to keep your arguements within the context of the topic being addressed.

arguments!

My apologies Mr. Sacco, I didn’t see this post earlier. I was showing a friend how to get to this site and they zeroed right in on this thread. They told me it is also illegal to post political signs in the Town of Lockport 30 days before an election. So here is my beef with your boy. He is the top law enforcement official in the county. He is responsible for setting the appropriate tone from the top and he is openly thumbing his nose at the law. How can you possibly vote for someone with such a blatant disrespect for the law? Maybe we should start a mass write-in campaign, Scott Leffler for sheriff!

Now while I have your attention Mr. Sacco, could you please explain the clean air act to me. Had I known you were such an expert I would have asked you sooner.

Date: Sun Sep 25 4:54 PM, 2005

shughes wrote:

Jim Sacco wrote: shughes, I am glad you really like to bug me. Hopefully it helps you learn to keep your arguements within the context of the topic being addressed. arguments! My apologies Mr. Sacco, I didn’t see this post earlier. I was showing a friend how to get to this site and they zeroed right in on this thread. They told me it is also illegal to post political signs in the Town of Lockport 30 days before an election. So here is my beef with your boy. He is the top law enforcement official in the county. He is responsible for setting the appropriate tone from the top and he is openly thumbing his nose at the law. How can you possibly vote for someone with such a blatant disrespect for the law? Maybe we should start a mass write-in campaign, Scott Leffler for sheriff! Now while I have your attention Mr. Sacco, could you please explain the clean air act to me. Had I known you were such an expert I would have asked you sooner.

Again, you defer from the subject shughes. Based on your demeanor, I can tell that you are either a Maziarz hack, or somehow involved in the public education system. These are people who I know always do their best to change the topic when they cannot adequately address it.

Here is some food for thought. Former Sheriff Tony Villella supports your guy Grear. Isn't it ironic that I hear a past detanee of Sheriff Villella named John Gross is involved with some demolition projects being investigated by the FBI in Niagara Falls. What happens if John Gross ends up in County Jail again???

shughes · Senior Member

I don’t know if there is a criminal penalty for violating public officers law or just a civil one. If there is a criminal penalty Mr. Gross could end up cellmates with the sheriff.

And what about the clean air act? It’s called multi tasking, you should give it a try!

Jim Sacco · Senior Member

shughes wrote:

I don’t know if there is a criminal penalty for violating public officers law or just a civil one. If there is a criminal penalty Mr. Gross could end up cellmates with the sheriff. And what about the clean air act? It’s called multi tasking, you should give it a try!

Like I said shughes, your demeanor tells me you are a Maziarz hack or are connected to the public school system (or both). Always trying to change the subject.

Probably a Maziarz hack!