Phantom wrote:

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 I think the point is that dead is dead, hate is hate and evil is evil, regardless of the motivation. People who feel the ends justify the means are the worst kind. Bush and his ilk are the same as bin Laden and his kind in that they both feel they can justify death and violence and both seem to be blinded to any alternative. "Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!" is a fine philosophy, but like Admiral Farragut, Bush is leading us blindly through a minefield, and he's doing so with total disregard for the country's best interests. As long as we keep torturing and killing each other, we can only expect more of the same from the opther side.

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you must be french ,

you seem to be saying that we should surrender , why dont we just lay down and cut our own throats for them , but lets be sure we dont offend them .   that is about the way the french fight wars . 

and dont forget the purge of those the koran does not approve of after the surrender ,  the problem of gay matrimony will be instantly solved as all the gays will be executed , not to mention the catholics and single mothers  and jews and .... etc etc .

      we are Americans , that is not how we wage war .  will destroy our enemies will and ability to kill us ,  then we rebuild their country and sell them stuff .   i prefer the American way .

Mindcrime wrote:

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mike of the mountain wrote: you seem to be saying that we should surrender , why dont we just lay down and cut our own throats for them , but lets be sure we dont offend them . I think the point was that we are perpetuating a cycle of violence that will ultimately destroy us. If you believe Bush, and we are to be the Harbingers of Freedom for the entire planet, maybe we should try to set a peaceful example. Just an idea...

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well italy , turkey , england , germany and japan were at one time all our mortal enemies -   so we soundly kicked their butts and now we sell them stuff and buy stuff from them - 

where is this cycle of violence you speak of ?

if there are any al qaeda left after we kick their butts , we will sell them stuff too . if not , if they cant buy our stuff when dead at least they wont be attempting to kill our people either .